The other two are not dupes as it is now, since dix's post is only the first part. If dix's post had contained the whole thing, either in a playlist or in one continuous video, all three of these would have been dupes.
Haha, I'm sure I've seen this before in a long-ass clip, but this is just brilliant and deserves its own clip. Everything Dave Mitchell touches turns to comedy gold.
I agree with you, diogenes, that it totally sucks that someone don't want to pay a tip, when you've done an exemplary job, but that is the nature of a tip. It's voluntary.
You were not in the wrong, because the offer in the card you mentioned stipulated an optional fee, at the restaurant's discretion. The problem is that it is disguised as a "gratuity" which it should not be. If it truly is a gratuity, it is his decision whether or not to give it.
Now all this doesn't mean that the nice thing to do would be to pay some sort of tip, if they've had a great service and dining experience, but none-the-less, it is their decision to make.
I'm not against the idea of tipping, I'm against the idea of hidden fees (no matter the circumstances). The person in question had obviously either not read the way his card worked, or chose to break the contract, in which case you are perfectly in the clear by cutting his card in half and demanding the full cost of the meal.
>> ^blankfist: It's easy to complain about a business when you've never invested money in a venture yourself. Most business owners are NOT billionaire fat cats with top hats and monocles. Most are working to make a living, and a lot of restauranteurs make less than the servers because of the debt and having to pay worker salaries first before paying theirs.
That aside, when these customers sat down to order they agreed to the mandatory tip. It would've been wise for the restaurant to comp them when they complained, but they certainly are not obligated to do so.
I rarely tip less than 20% unless the service is terrible. Even when mandatory I tend to add to it. I suppose I should move to Europe where they "make better society" and then I'd never have to reward people for their good work.
Blah blah de blah blah. It's easy to make personal attacks instead of a cogent argument.
That last part is just bullshit. We pay tips in Europe, or Denmark at least, but only if the service was over average. Our restaurant industry is better, because if you don't get a tip, you don't starve. You are rewarded for good work, not punished for bad work.
>> ^poolcleaner: >> ^gwiz665: I have no problem with a restaurant adding an extra fee if you are a big group, but I have a problem when they try to call it a tip or gratuity. That's the whole issue, it's not gratuity, it's a bill. I pay tips in restaurants when I've gotten good service, or we had difficult orders or whatever - but I CHOOSE to pay it, I'm not forced to it.
Your opinion is skewed because 1) You don't live in America, and 2) You didn't work in the terrible food industry of America.
Before you start downvoting me and before you stop reading what I have to say, let me explain: I'm not against you not being American, (because that's a simple-minded way to go about judging people) but the food industry here is bullshit and the system (for lack of an actual person to blame) forces workers into this reality. When a tip is not paid by a customer, it's akin to docking a worker's pay. I know it doesn't make that much sense, but it's how things turned out over here. And it's as simple as that from a restaurant worker's perspective.
My next point is also important to your understanding: The total tips that a waiter/server makes at the end of the day is split up amongst the food runners, bussers, and barback, so not tipping has a trickle down effect to people who may have done their share of work yet who rely on the waiter to make their fair share.
It really is a shitty shitland of shit for the workers who live by these rules. I fault your ignorance of our food culture, not your ability to reason. I'd love to adopt the system you envision, but that means nothing in the short term and isn't too realistic.
You say that as if I don't know it. I do. Your system is shitty, everyone knows it. I would refuse to play into a shitty system (food industry). If these people saw that there was a mandatory extra fee and chose to eat there anyway, then they are in the wrong. Of course. But to call it a gratuity or tip is deceitful. I have no problem docking a waiter's pay if he provides shitty service, if his pay is partly what he wants me to donate. It is obviously obfuscating the terms, so it doesn't feel like an extra bill, but it still is.
The problem is that (all) customers are being blamed for the poor pay that waiters have. It is not the customers' fault, it is the business owners and the industry's fault.
[edit: forgot I already had replied to that last part..]
>> ^TangledThorns: Obama better wise up as his actual approval polls are hitting below 50% while Sarah Palin's are rising. The way this fool is running the country into the ground I expect a President Sarah Palin to save us from his huge mistakes.
Aaahahahahaa.
Oh wait, you were serious? Let me laugh even harder.
I agree with marinara, it's a shame that there was dupeof in this instance. It's impossible to reinstante the votes as they were now, but at least the other one could be unkilled and go by its own merits. Alternatively, you can post it again, marinara.
David Mitchell's Bread & Milk rant from QI
LHC gets Webcam! It is freakin awesome. (Science Talk Post)
No wait, that's a different web cam.
I has a carrot
The Daily Show Lou Dobbs Extended Interview Pt. 1(of 3)
The other two are not dupes as it is now, since dix's post is only the first part. If dix's post had contained the whole thing, either in a playlist or in one continuous video, all three of these would have been dupes.
Jon Stewart Enlists Pro Wrestler to Protect Gay Marriage Kid
Ut. Sen: No Gays Stuffing it Down His Throat All The Time
David Mitchell dislikes his teammate's behaviour
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How long are you going to stay down there?
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
You were not in the wrong, because the offer in the card you mentioned stipulated an optional fee, at the restaurant's discretion. The problem is that it is disguised as a "gratuity" which it should not be. If it truly is a gratuity, it is his decision whether or not to give it.
Now all this doesn't mean that the nice thing to do would be to pay some sort of tip, if they've had a great service and dining experience, but none-the-less, it is their decision to make.
I'm not against the idea of tipping, I'm against the idea of hidden fees (no matter the circumstances). The person in question had obviously either not read the way his card worked, or chose to break the contract, in which case you are perfectly in the clear by cutting his card in half and demanding the full cost of the meal.
Rufus, Moby, Sean Lennon - Across The Universe
One Girl, 12 Cups
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
Jimmy Carr: Audience doesn't "get it" on The Late Late Show
Bryce, Brycewi19 got his ruby - baby (Happy Talk Post)
Congrats bryce!
"An internal server error occurred. Please try again later." (Sift Talk Post)
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
It's easy to complain about a business when you've never invested money in a venture yourself. Most business owners are NOT billionaire fat cats with top hats and monocles. Most are working to make a living, and a lot of restauranteurs make less than the servers because of the debt and having to pay worker salaries first before paying theirs.
That aside, when these customers sat down to order they agreed to the mandatory tip. It would've been wise for the restaurant to comp them when they complained, but they certainly are not obligated to do so.
I rarely tip less than 20% unless the service is terrible. Even when mandatory I tend to add to it. I suppose I should move to Europe where they "make better society" and then I'd never have to reward people for their good work.
Blah blah de blah blah. It's easy to make personal attacks instead of a cogent argument.
That last part is just bullshit. We pay tips in Europe, or Denmark at least, but only if the service was over average. Our restaurant industry is better, because if you don't get a tip, you don't starve. You are rewarded for good work, not punished for bad work.
>> ^poolcleaner:
>> ^gwiz665:
I have no problem with a restaurant adding an extra fee if you are a big group, but I have a problem when they try to call it a tip or gratuity. That's the whole issue, it's not gratuity, it's a bill. I pay tips in restaurants when I've gotten good service, or we had difficult orders or whatever - but I CHOOSE to pay it, I'm not forced to it.
Your opinion is skewed because 1) You don't live in America, and 2) You didn't work in the terrible food industry of America.
Before you start downvoting me and before you stop reading what I have to say, let me explain: I'm not against you not being American, (because that's a simple-minded way to go about judging people) but the food industry here is bullshit and the system (for lack of an actual person to blame) forces workers into this reality. When a tip is not paid by a customer, it's akin to docking a worker's pay. I know it doesn't make that much sense, but it's how things turned out over here. And it's as simple as that from a restaurant worker's perspective.
My next point is also important to your understanding: The total tips that a waiter/server makes at the end of the day is split up amongst the food runners, bussers, and barback, so not tipping has a trickle down effect to people who may have done their share of work yet who rely on the waiter to make their fair share.
It really is a shitty shitland of shit for the workers who live by these rules. I fault your ignorance of our food culture, not your ability to reason. I'd love to adopt the system you envision, but that means nothing in the short term and isn't too realistic.
You say that as if I don't know it. I do. Your system is shitty, everyone knows it. I would refuse to play into a shitty system (food industry). If these people saw that there was a mandatory extra fee and chose to eat there anyway, then they are in the wrong. Of course. But to call it a gratuity or tip is deceitful. I have no problem docking a waiter's pay if he provides shitty service, if his pay is partly what he wants me to donate. It is obviously obfuscating the terms, so it doesn't feel like an extra bill, but it still is.
The problem is that (all) customers are being blamed for the poor pay that waiters have. It is not the customers' fault, it is the business owners and the industry's fault.
[edit: forgot I already had replied to that last part..]
Mobile VideoSift Now Available on Droids and iPhones (Sift Talk Post)
Mobile VideoSift Now Available on Droids and iPhones (Sift Talk Post)
Obama on Palin's Rating of his Presidency
Obama better wise up as his actual approval polls are hitting below 50% while Sarah Palin's are rising. The way this fool is running the country into the ground I expect a President Sarah Palin to save us from his huge mistakes.
Aaahahahahaa.
Oh wait, you were serious? Let me laugh even harder.
AAAHH HA HAHAHAHA!!
CCTV: King County sheriff's deputy assaulting 15 yr old girl